Path: mit-eddie!snorkelwacker!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!uunet!mcsun!sunic!tut!ousrvr!news From: so-luru@stekt.oulu.fi (Ari Husa OH8NUP) Newsgroups: alt.callahans Subject: *peek* Message-ID: Date: 1 Mar 90 23:11:41 GMT Sender: news@ousrvr.oulu.fi Distribution: alt Organization: United Lusers Against SO Prefix Lines: 24 Hello, everyone. To my friends (and enemies), I just want to remind you of my existence. I haven't forgotten you, nor have I left the place. I just kind of fell asleep right there in front of the fireplace... ... and I had a dream... of decent economy... passing lotsa classes... and such... ... then I woke up. I have made progress with my cut-the-irc-and-other-waste-of-time program, though. But I *hate* it when I don't have enough time or I am too tired to read these stories with feeling and empathy. Ho-hum.. math exam coming up on Saturday, another one in Monday. *hugs*, accordingly. Luru -- /// Ari Husa OH8NUP so-luru@stekt.oulu.fi o-o --... ...-- o Ham Radio Operators Do It In Higher Frequency Path: mit-eddie!snorkelwacker!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!ULKYVX.BITNET!cfcohe01 From: cfcohe01@ULKYVX.BITNET (Rose Delckum) Newsgroups: alt.callahans Subject: What Author I'd Be Message-ID: <9cfcohe01@ULKYVX.bitnet> Date: 2 Mar 90 00:09:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: University of Louisville Lines: 11 I think if I could be remembered as an author, or be responsible for the welfare and memory of their books, I'd want to be Ray Bradbury. Or, since I'm female, if I had to choose a female writer, it's be either Marion Zimmer Bradley or Madeline L'Engle. Or maybe Terry Pratchett (talk about your great puns!) Now I feel guilty about neglecting all my other favorite writers, like Lloyd Alexander, Susan Cooper, Douglas Adams... I feel a sudden urge to go read a whole bunch of books. Rose Path: mit-eddie!snorkelwacker!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucsd!ucsdhub!hp-sdd!hp-pcd!hplabs!hpfcso!daq From: daq@hpfcso.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) Newsgroups: alt.callahans Subject: Callahan's is dead. Message-ID: <9060032@hpfcso.HP.COM> Date: 1 Mar 90 04:13:35 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA Lines: 19 Well ladies and gentleman, I cannot seem to find Callahan's much any more. It fades in and out, and I can only catch fragments of conversations. Here there is a post without a reply. There there is a reply to a post that never came past my eyes. In the ever perverse way of the universe, Callahan's does not seem to be working too well on the network. Perhaps emotions are not meant to be discussed over the net. Perhaps flames are needed to guide the messages safely through the dangers of the virtual universe. Sometimes Callahan's goes for days without updating at all. Who knows why, since I know people are posting. If you are tempted to respond to this, you had better email, else I may not see it. Doug (Cynic) Path: mit-eddie!snorkelwacker!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!jarthur!estokien From: estokien@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Eric Stokien) Newsgroups: alt.callahans Subject: Re: A New Topic! (was Re: Soulmates?!) Message-ID: <4764@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> Date: 2 Mar 90 03:37:41 GMT References: <9002261515.AA05871@fsdcupt.csd.mot.COM> <9846@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711 Lines: 22 In article <9846@spool.cs.wisc.edu> lewandow@sabertooth.cs.wisc.edu (Gary Lewandowski (TA of Doom)) writes: >So my proposed topic is, what author would you be? (authors perhaps) >(i.e. what books would you like to be responsible for remembering and >passing on?) >I think Plato would be cool, or Orson Scott Card if I restricted it to more >recent times. Of course he could probably be himself... :-) >Whose work would you carry on? > gary > lewandow@cs.wisc.edu > "Knowledge is a fractal." -- Samuel Bates I originally introduced myself as Inigo Montoya in this place, and I still think The Princess Bride was the best book I ever read and one of the most inspiring for a dreamer like me. I think that would be the book I would like to keep passing on to people, but I wouldn't carry on in Goldman's footsteps. I think Heinlein has something to say to people and his style or perhaps Douglas Adams' style is perhaps closest to my own. Actually I think I just need to go and refine the style I developed years ago and make my own contributions. Path: mit-eddie!snorkelwacker!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!rice!uw-beaver!milton!blake!unicorn!n8442349 From: n8442349@unicorn.WWU.EDU (joy ralph m) Newsgroups: alt.callahans Subject: My author Message-ID: <569@unicorn.WWU.EDU> Date: 2 Mar 90 05:50:35 GMT References: <9002261515.AA05871@fsdcupt.csd.mot.COM> <9846@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <4764@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> Reply-To: n8442349@unicorn.WWU.EDU (joy ralph m) Organization: Western Washington Univ, Bellingham, WA Lines: 14 "Since Cordwainer Smith, Marion Zimmer Bradley, and Robert Heinlein have been mentioned, I'll have to take Michael Moorcock - a daunting prospect, but a necessary one" says the small centaur seen *quite* a long time ago. She then ducks back behind the huge stack of books that has been obscuring her from view. Joy -- I've been a naughty girl. I've spoken out loud against the world. They're sending me to the Creepy Room for some chemically induced fear because my mind's out of tune. -Toyah Path: mit-eddie!snorkelwacker!think!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!hubcap!dkarres From: dkarres@hubcap.clemson.edu (Dean Karres) Newsgroups: alt.callahans Subject: The Author I'd be is... Keywords: Lens, Lensman, Boskone Message-ID: <8209@hubcap.clemson.edu> Date: 2 Mar 90 15:05:45 GMT Distribution: usa Organization: Clemson University, Clemson, SC Lines: 12 I would gladly accept responsibility for E. E. ''Doc'' Smith and his Lensman series. James Blish's _Cities in Flight_ series + _Black Easter_ and _Day after Judgment_. Fred Saberhagen's [sp?] _Beserker_ stories. And last but not least, Eric Von Lustbader's fantasy. dean...k... (Child of the Lens) -- || dean...k... || "...With tremblin' hands he gave his gold to the || wild colonial boy..." from John Doolan dkarres@hubcap.clemson.edu || Path: mit-eddie!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think!bbn!granite!mandel From: mandel@granite.cr.bull.com (Mark Mandel) Newsgroups: alt.callahans Subject: The Axe Message-ID: <1990Mar2.151655.26613@granite.cr.bull.com> Date: 2 Mar 90 15:16:55 GMT Reply-To: mandel@granite.cr.bull.com (Mark Mandel) Distribution: alt Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc. Lines: 42 (Silverblack comes in. He looks quite shaken and rather pale.) "Mike, can you manage a STRONG decaffeinated coffee, with milk?" (Mike says nothing, but pulls out a bag of coffee beans and fiddles with a grinder and brewing equipment, and soon Mark -- Silverblack -- has a cup of very black decaffeinated coffee and a little pitcher of milk next to it.) "I just got the axe, my friends. My company is laying off heavily and this time my turn came. You are... as a group, the fourth or fifth to know it from me, after a few co-workers and my wife. "All I know about the next two weeks is that I plan to be working out of here to line up a next job. (That has the official OK.) I'm not sure how much longer I'll have the use of this machine, which is my only access to the net. I am not *locked* into this part of the country (Boston-land west, Framingham to be precise), but I have a mortgaged house here, a full-time working wife, and two kids in public school. I have 6+ years of experience with Bull (Honeywell) DPS-6 (GCOS-6) computers, with assembly language, with C, with System V Unix, and with Oracle; I have a Ph.D. in linguistics from Berkeley and know French, German, American Sign Language, and somewhat of a bunch of others (I'm good at learning, esp. languages). "Yes, that is what it sounds like: a 'situation-wanted' notice. If you know of anything that sounds like a fit, I'd appreciate hearing about it. You can send to me here; I'll find out how long I'll be on here, and I'll be back in with names & net-addresses of people who will pass messages to me." (Silverblack gets up with his coffee and steps to the line.) "TO THE FUTURE!" (The cup flies into the fireplace, trailing drops of beige that follow it into the flames.) CRASH - SIZZLE! -- Mark A. Mandel with 49/51% black and silver hair -- -- Mark Mandel (InterNet: Mandel@granite.cr.bull.com) /* My employer is not responsible for anything I say, do, think, or eat. */ Path: mit-eddie!mit-amt!snorkelwacker!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!njin!princeton!phoenix!jwbirdsa From: jwbirdsa@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (James Webster Birdsall) Newsgroups: alt.callahans Subject: Author! Author! Keywords: pick an author, any author... :) Message-ID: <14184@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Date: 2 Mar 90 16:16:29 GMT Organization: Princeton University, NJ Lines: 28 The green tiger stirs from his rest by the fire. It seems that the fire was not there a moment before, nor the tables or rafters or the rows and rows of bottles behind the bar. There was nothing but a gray limbo and disembodied voices... { Time to bring back the ambience, } he says. { We are in danger of becoming just another newsgroup instead of a Place. Please, let's remember Where we are. It's part of what makes Callahan's special. } { Anyway, on another side track, I'd like to thank all the kind people who replied to my posting labeled "Boom!" -- about a month ago, I think. I just don't have the time to reply and it's sort of too late now. Just so you know that I did appreciate your thoughts... } { Finally, I get around to the point of this posting! If I had to pick one author -- assuming I didn't go crazy trying -- I think I might end up with H. Beam Piper. My other possibilities, such as Niven, or Norton, or Laumer, surely somebody else will choose them. But Piper is not much remembered these days and I can't consign the Fuzzies to oblivion, nor Lord Kalvan. } The tiger flops down again and begins to snore faintly... -- James W. Birdsall jwbirdsa@phoenix.Princeton.EDU jwbirdsa@pucc.BITNET ...allegra!princeton!phoenix!jwbirdsa Compu$erve: 71261,1731 "For it is the doom of men that they forget." -- Merlin Path: mit-eddie!mintaka!think!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!psuvax1!psuvm!tag2 From: TAG2@psuvm.psu.edu Newsgroups: alt.callahans Subject: Re: WHAT AUTHOR I WOULD BE Message-ID: <90061.091141TAG2@psuvm.psu.edu> Date: 2 Mar 90 14:11:41 GMT References: <8256@lindy.Stanford.EDU> Organization: Penn State University Lines: 7 Hmmm...good question. I'll take Gerald K. O'Neill; his book, 2081, always gives me a feeling of hope for the future when I read it. In addition, his basis is scientifically factual, which appeals to my practical side. Any book that can be realistic and hopeful at the same time, I'd be proud to be the author of. Tom Gryn........................tag2@PSUVM "Life is unfair, but there ARE balances..." - Joel Rosenberg. Path: mit-eddie!mintaka!think!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!shelby!lindy!news From: GE.LJB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Louis J Bookbinder) Newsgroups: alt.callahans Subject: Silverback Message-ID: <8289@lindy.Stanford.EDU> Date: 2 Mar 90 18:35:21 GMT Sender: news@lindy.Stanford.EDU (News Service) Lines: 79 clank, clank, CLANK, CLANK! Nick Chopper makes his customary noisy entry to Callahan's. In one quick motion he slaps a silver dollar on the bar and comes away with a small glass of oily liquid in his metal hand. He walks over to Silverback at a well-occupied table, drinking decaf with friends. "For a moment, there, I thought you had found my silver axe! This is terrible! This is no fun at all! If I wouldn't rust I would sit with you and cry tears and drink decaf till I float! "One of the worst times in my life was when I lost my job. Actually, it happened twice - the first time was bloody, the second sad and a little desparate. "The first time my boss and I were getting some rather heated differences of opinion and one day we started calling names, and then I decided that 2 more times I would quit and 5 minutes later he called me in and fired me. I was glad to get out, but couldn't afford to, really. Rats. I hated him and myself for months afterward. "The second time I worked for a company which helped (for a fee) various police and penal organizations in computerizing some of their operations. They got over half of their money from the Feds. Almost to a man they were Reagan supporters and thought I was totally weird to support Carter. Reagan won and immediately announced cuts in the Criminal Justice funding and our company suddenly had to downsize. It was almost poetic justice, to force the pun! But I had to find a job, fast, my wife was pregnant! So I found one here at Stanford, not the best work, but great place to work and terrific people. Salary was also pretty good. I got the best of the deal, I think, but had to give up a nice home in Sacramento for the hovel I live in now (5 people in a 3-bedroom, 1 bath, 40-year-old tract house. Well, it keeps the rain off our heads) "But mainly I remember the horrible feeling, not unlike stepping off a cliff, like the ground suddenly dropping out from under. You want to grab at anything. You want to cry. You want to scream at the idiots who put together this damn uncivilization! "Mostly you want to cry. It's SO UNFAIR! You were so loyal, so dedicated, so willing to pull for the team, and they slap you and boot you out!. "I am sorry, I really am. The next few months will be really hard for you, not just financially, but psychically. Don't convince yourself that you are worthless, or any less than the best professional anybody could ask for. Your credentials are truly awesome! I AM HUMBLED! You should have no problem getting an even better job. This will not, of course, negate the shocking pain you will experience until your new job materializes, but it should help maintain hope. "Please keep sharing with us as long as you are able, and we will try to help." Nick slurps in the oily stuff, turns quizically to Mike. "Mink Oil" "Not bad - a littly slimy. Oh, well..." He walks to the line. "I still haven't found my axe. Maybe I don't want it. Heck, I don't know! I want to keep this job and writing to A.C takes time from my job. I want us all to keep our jobs, or at least to get another one we are happy with. These are troubling times. Everything has changed, just when the Conservative Establishment finally lulled most of us into thinking we had it made and everything would now stay in these happy conditions. Nuts! Complacency is the enemy of wisdom. Blindness to change is fatal. But adjusting to change and planning for uncertainty is never easy. "To the uncertain future! May we meet it head-on, despite major concussions, and eventually conquer it (only to find still more uncertainty to come!)" **Crash** "Thanx, Mike. Good luck, Silverback!" CLANK!, CLANK, Clank, clank, slam Nick Chopper - my opinion? dont ax! LB>- GE.LJB@Forsythe.stanford.edu