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From: adam@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (David C. Kaplowitz)
Subject: Re: More Shared Joy!
In-Reply-To: karl@haddock.ima.isc.com's message of 14 Mar 90 04:19:40 GMT
Message-ID: <1990Mar14.191034.6019@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>
Organization: Brandeis University Computer Science Dept
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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 90 19:10:34 GMT
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"Looking at that glass Karl, I think I'll go and get my eyes checked
..."

"It _has_ been a while since I was passing out warm fuzzies, but I
think I otta start again.  The greatest warm fuzzie of them all to get
is to give them."

"Life may be a rose garden (when you are on top, everything is
beautiful and strong, but when you sink down, things get under your
skin, and it is hard to see the beauty) and I am glad that T&J, and
J&A rose to the occasion of love (Heark, the multimeaning word ...)
and thus lifted (basic theorem Shared(joy)^n <=> Shared(pain)^1/n) us
all ... "

Humming under his breath ("up up up to the heavy side layer") <swipe>
("nice kitty")

"To the improbable, Let's make it happen!"
<*Thunk*>

"Uh, Mike?  Maybe I had better stick to egg-nog, my aim is getting bad
again.  Thanks." 

"Hey White-Wielder!  I thought that Micky Finn had explosions ... uum
covered?"

"Oh wow, rosted penuts ... Ooof"

Traveler In Elephants
Dave
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From: usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Author, author!
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Date: 14 Mar 90 18:28:33 GMT
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Reply-To: frey@frith.UUCP (Zachary T. Frey)
Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering
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In article <1990Mar7.151155.15899@granite.cr.bull.com> mandel@granite.cr.bull.com (Mark Mandel) writes:
>In article <6752@cps3xx.UUCP> frey@frith.UUCP (Zachary T. Frey) signs off as:

>>Papernet: Zachary Frey         | frey@frith.egr.msu.edu |  Usenet:  the
>>          514 Virginia St.     | frey@msuegr.BITNET     |    Bellman's
>>          E. Lansing, MI 48823 | ...uunet!frith!frey    |    Paradise.
                                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Is this any relation to the Bellman's map, which was             |
>	"a perfect and absolute blank"				  |
>					?-------------------------+

(Somebody noticed!  Calloo! Callay!)

Sort of.  I had in mind --

   "'Tis a good place for a Snark!  I have said it twice,
    That alone should encourage the crew.
    'Tis a good place for a Snark!  I have said it thrice,
    What I say three times is true."

I thought of it after reading a particular go-around on soc.singles, where 
the fla... um, discussion consisted mostly of proof by repetition.

I felt that the Bellman would have been particularly at home.


Zach Frey

Papernet: Zachary Frey         | frey@frith.egr.msu.edu |  Usenet:  the
          514 Virginia St.     | frey@msuegr.BITNET     |    Bellman's
          E. Lansing, MI 48823 | ...uunet!frith!frey    |    Paradise.
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From: jane@FSDCUPT.CSD.MOT.COM (Jane Beckman x4030)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: grenades
Message-ID: <9003141124.AA04873@fsdcupt.csd.mot.COM>
Date: 14 Mar 90 19:24:43 GMT
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Jilara frowns.  "That granade idea really bombed, Cynic.  Do you have 
to be such an explosive personality?  That really capped things off."

She gets up and stalks over to his table, arms folded sternly, her 
mouth compressed into a thin we-are-not-amused line.  "And I am using 
our pun format to try to get things back on track.  If you're really 
into blasting caps, go play in alt.flame.  This is Callahans, dammit!  
I consider myself a cynic.  You, my friend, are a misanthrope.  I've 
spent a lot of time disarming misanthropes, and I would sincerely like 
to sit here and talk with my friends without any more incidents.  Do 
we have a truce?"  She smiles in a way that folks say gives you cold 
chills, her smile that has scared muggers.  You begin to realize why 
this woman ran SCA security for several years.  "If you feel so inclined 
again, you can talk to Auntie Jilara about it, or we can hash it out 
in the alley.  Remember, Callahans has a reputation to uphold."

She beckons Nick Chopper out of the fireplace.  "Give this man one of 
your warm fuzzies.  He needs it."  Nick carefully places the warm fuzzy 
on Cynic's shoulder.  "Wait a minute, I've still got two!" he exclaims 
in amazement.  "You didn't tell me these things reproduced!"

   ---Jilara the Exile     jane%fsdcupt.csd@urbana.mcd.mot.com
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From: jane@FSDCUPT.CSD.MOT.COM (Jane Beckman x4030)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Friends, soulmates, age...
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Date: 14 Mar 90 18:55:57 GMT
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Jilara shakes her head.  "I guess all you earnest young kids make me 
feel the experience of my years.  You all want instant solutions to 
life and relationships.  Twenty-two?!  My god, that's still YOUNG.  
I'll let you in on a secret; I didn't have my first date until I was 
19, and that was because I couldn't think of a graceful way to say 
"No" to this guy..."  She sighs, shakes her head, puts her hands behind 
it and stretches out.  "So I went to the Electronics Club picnic with 
him.  That started five years of being around him, being his lady because 
I was afraid of what he would do if I left.  You see, he was possessive, 
violent, insanely jealous...  I also kept him romantically at arm's 
length, and ours was a non-sexual pairing, thank god.  Back then, I 
didn't like people touching me, and became sick to my stomach when people 
tried to kiss me.  Incest does that to you...  Oh yes, the fringe benefit 
was that he was interference between me and my father.  Maybe I was using 
him a little, as protection.  Strangely, over years, we actually became 
friends, and still are...  We became friends enough that I could finally 
leave him without worrying about the consequences..."  She shudders 
slightly, remembering.  

"But by then, I had friends, my strength and my salvation.  He hated most 
of them, felt threatened by the women, even.  But they, and the SCA, gave 
me the strength to leave.  Friends, my dears, will get you through.  Friends, 
real friends, will give you strength, care about you, stand by you in 
adversity, and give you support and warm fuzzies.  Romantic relationships 
are okay, but remember that without friendship, you have nothing.  Over 
the years, I've had a few romantic relationships, but those I've been 
closest to have been those I wasn't involved with in that manner, but 
rather with a warm, close friendship.  Men want something different from 
their romantic fixations, it seems.  No, men AND women seem to treat those 
interactions differently...  My problems were in thinking we were playing 
by the same rules, myself and those who were interested in me.  After a 
few years, I simply stopped getting involved that way, because it meant we 
couldn't be friends.  The friendship factor was important enough that I 
figured it was WORTH sacrificing any other factors.  

"I got older, and tired, and flakey at the edges, being a Rock, and Island, 
convincing myself "rocks feel no pain," as Simon and Garfunkle put it.  My 
friends were all that kept me going, for several years.  I finally got 
involved with this guy who emotionally screwed me over, because I wanted 
desperately to believe there was someone, enough to believe in a mirage.  
His definition of "friend" didn't match mine, unfortunately...  And then 
I ended up here, and old, tired wayfarer.  And found all of you, with 
definitions that DID match.  I've found better friends, in a few months 
in The Place, than in the previous twenty years...  And a damned good 
friend who seems to match what my soulmate should be, since he seems to 
mirror my own soul.  Right down to that weariness..."  She grins suddenly. 

"If you meet someone when you're young, consider yourself blest.  If you 
meet that someone when you're feeling ancient and have been plodding for 
years, consider yourself doubly blest!  Don't lose hope.  My aunt didn't 
meet her soulmate until she was 44.  Yes, 44!  They were together for 
almost fourty years.  Remember, good things are worth waiting for!  And 
if that friend turns out NOT to be your soulmate, treasure them as a friend;
those are precious enough!"  

   --Jilara the Exile    jane%fsdcupt.csd@urbana.mcd.mot.com
Path: mit-eddie!bbn!granite!mandel
From: mandel@granite.cr.bull.com (Mark Mandel)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Grin--  Some Dreams Come True
Message-ID: <1990Mar14.183114.10606@granite.cr.bull.com>
Date: 14 Mar 90 18:31:14 GMT
References: <gZz6Zqm00V4V42TkQW@andrew.cmu.edu>
Reply-To: mandel@granite.cr.bull.com (Mark Mandel)
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc.
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In article <gZz6Zqm00V4V42TkQW@andrew.cmu.edu> jm7w+@andrew.cmu.edu 
(Joelle Ann Mellon) writes:
>She laughs as she steps up to the chalk line.  To him, she says,
>"Ad Novos Amicos!"
>
>She hurls her mug into the fire, and to the rest of the room, she says,
>"To New Friends!!" >>CRASH<<

(At the sound of Latin, Silverblack looks up from editing his resume.
He's been here, but silent, for the past few days.  Goes to the bar.)

"Mike, it HAS to be Italian wine for this one.... Thanks."  (To the
line; turns to face Joelle and Tal.)  "Amici cari quamquam nunquam a
me visi, felicitatem maximam vobis duobus per multos annos Veneri
benevolenti impreco!"  GLUG!  (toss)  ** shatter! **
-- 

	-- Mark Mandel  (InterNet for a while: mandel@granite.cr.bull.com)

 /* Bull disclaims all responsibility for me, and I for them. */
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From: mandel@granite.cr.bull.com (Mark Mandel)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Realspace Gathering idea becomes a t-shirt
Message-ID: <1990Mar14.183619.11185@granite.cr.bull.com>
Date: 14 Mar 90 18:36:19 GMT
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Reply-To: mandel@granite.cr.bull.com (Mark Mandel)
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc.
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In article <1990Mar14.142032.16316@granite.cr.bull.com> 
mwolf@granite.cr.bull.com (Mary-Anne Wolf) writes:
>I would prefer a T-shirt that is not too obvious, perhaps a picture of a 
>fireplace with a pile of broken glass in it, and one or more glasses
>flying toward it.  Such a shirt would both represent our group and
>Spider's books, and would remain appropriate even if the cast of
>characters here changed."

I second the motion.  (Silverblack.)  I LIKE that: appropriately abstract,
durable, and symbolic.

BTW, when I disappear off this net address -- any day now -- Mary-Anne
MAY be able to pass stuff on to me.  I'm trying to arrange another 
net.home.
-- 

	-- Mark Mandel  (InterNet for a while: mandel@granite.cr.bull.com)

 /* Bull disclaims all responsibility for me, and I for them. */
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From: GE.LJB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Louis J Bookbinder)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: the animated haystack
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Date: 14 Mar 90 19:40:37 GMT
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From a huge pile of fuzz by the fireplace a muffled voice calls out

"Happy birthday, Steve!"

The heap heaves heavily (say THAT 5 times rapidly!) and a broom handle
pokes out.

"Really, folks, thanx for the moderate temperature hirsute animations,
but it makes my job so hard! Ooof!" The heap struggles over to the still
smoking spot where a hand-granade just went off. Mike is scraping away
at the char and the splinters, and pausing now and then to dig out the
schrapnel with an oddly shaped pocket knife. He looks up in annoyance at
the animate pile of fur.

"Nick, you ain't gonna get out from under that pile if you dont learn
how to share warm fuzzies. The other thing you gotta do is learn to
enjoy them, or they just stick and don't get absorbed!"

"Absorbed!!! But they are alive!"

"Of course! You want Dead Fuzzies?"

"How can I absorb them with my metal skin?"

"Ask Jilara - seems you got into this mess with her!"

Moan!. "What is the damage, here, Mike"

"Not much - THIS can be fixed. What frosts me is that there was VIOLENCE
in MY PLACE! Cynic may have his problems, and I certainly don't
appreciate Roddenberryisms in here any more than you, but VIOLENCE!
DAMN!"

Nick is shocked at Mike's profanity. Mike is no stranger to profanity,
but seldom needs it. Mike continues scraping at the burns. The large
pile of fuzzies heaves a bit and says

"I'm Sorry, Mike. I wish I could help, but can barely help myself.
Speaking of bears, that was quite a trick with the plaid drink. Scotch,
I assume! *SIGH* I wonder if someone could cook up something interesting
in hydrocarbons like that. As Spock would say......."

The heap struggles back to the fireplace where glass keeps piling up.
Toasts are becoming more common - spring is in the air - love is in the
offing - the warm fuzzies are humming softly and somehow don't mind the
broken shards being swept up by...

Nick Chopper - my opinion? dont ax!  LB>- GE.LJB@Forsythe.stanford.edu
Path: mit-eddie!bbn!granite!mandel
From: mandel@granite.cr.bull.com (Mark Mandel)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Queue Dump
Keywords: Lots of stuff
Message-ID: <1990Mar12.205911.13473@granite.cr.bull.com>
Date: 12 Mar 90 20:59:11 GMT
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Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc.
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In article <14404@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> jwbirdsa@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (James Webster Birdsall) writes:
>   { Silverblack: I wish you as much luck in your search as I have the
>energy to spare, although it's sort of depressing from my point of view.
>You see, I'm looking for a job -- my first -- in programming right now.
>If they're canning people with _your_ sort of credentials, I'm doomed.
>Which is something I've been suspecting for some time now, given the
>number of rejection letters I've gotten. Argh. }

Thanks, Green Tiger.  But, remember, it's as much a question of
employer, location, and specific job as it is a question of you and
your creds... or more so.  (Howzat again?)  If you're getting into the
field, you come cheaper than I do.  At this place they're hiring
fresh-outs at the same time they're laying off the old hands.  I could
say more, but I might start getting bitter, and that would be neither
helpful to you or me, nor truthful in large part.

-- 

	-- Mark Mandel  (InterNet for a while: mandel@granite.cr.bull.com)

 /* Bull disclaims all responsibility for me, and I for them. */
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From: jt1o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joseph L. Traub)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Pittsburgh Callahanian Gathering..
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Date: 14 Mar 90 20:32:39 GMT
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Greetings Oktave..
Sounds wonderful.. I for one would like to meet you..
If anyone else wants to show up, I can volunteer my apartment as a meeting
place..
As for Taldin.. He unfortuanetly left this morning.. (Wednesday)
There is also an IRC party her on Saturday night, and I am sure other's are
welcome to show up to that as well.
Oktave, if you want to get together, even if it is only a small get together, I
would be DELIGHTED.

Looking forward to meeting you.
Moonchilde.
aka Joseph Traub
(jt1o@andrew.cmu.edu)
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From: dc2y+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Bradford Conklin)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Grin-- Some Dreams Come True
Message-ID: <QZzeoTa00Ws747ZlZI@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: 14 Mar 90 20:44:15 GMT
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	<GILLY.90Mar14112203@bucsf.bu.edu>
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	The proper name for a group of fuzzies is a fluff.

					David B. Conklin
					dc2y+@andrew.cmu.edu
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Do unto others as you would	 have them do unto you.
			-Jesus of Nazareth