Path: mit-eddie!mintaka!snorkelwacker!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!uunet!image.soe.clarkson.edu!news From: stadnism@clutx.clarkson.edu (Steven Stadnicki,9B23 Woodstock,2680000,5186432664) Newsgroups: alt.callahans Subject: Re: SF puns Message-ID: <1989Dec1.052050.10271@sun.soe.clarkson.edu> Date: 1 Dec 89 05:20:50 GMT References: <11770@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Sender: news@sun.soe.clarkson.edu Reply-To: stadnism@clutx.clarkson.edu Organization: Clarkson University, Potsdam, NY Lines: 14 From article <11770@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>, by jmdoyle@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jennifer Mary Doyle): > "We really should write these down. Let's call a Clarke." she said, as a huge > Brin spread across her face. "It Kurtz me to see these wonderful puns lost > forever." > Jen-- I agree with Jen; we oughta Stasheff few of these away for future reFrenz... Steven Stadnicki stadnism@clutx.clarkson.edu Home is where your friends are. Path: mit-eddie!snorkelwacker!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!ucdavis!pollux!ez000691 From: ez000691@pollux Newsgroups: alt.callahans Subject: Re: SF puns Summary: And those personal stats Keywords: lovely puns, wonderful puns Message-ID: <6123@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> Date: 1 Dec 89 06:51:07 GMT References: <11770@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> <1989Dec1.052050.10271@sun.soe.clarkson.edu> Sender: uucp@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu Reply-To: ez000691@pollux (Shadow) Followup-To: alt.callahans Organization: University of California, Davis Lines: 45 In article <1989Dec1.052050.10271@sun.soe.clarkson.edu> stadnism@clutx.clarkson.edu writes: >From article <11770@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>, by jmdoyle@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jennifer Mary Doyle): >> "We really should write these down. Let's call a Clarke." she said, as a huge >> Brin spread across her face. "It Kurtz me to see these wonderful puns lost >> forever." >> Jen-- > >I agree with Jen; we oughta Stasheff few of these away for future reFrenz... > > Steven Stadnicki > stadnism@clutx.clarkson.edu Urgh! I think I need an Asprin! (Better Chalker that one up to experience...) -- Real Name: Bret Shefter Age: 21 Gender: Male Height: 5'9" Weight: 155 Hair: Brownish (just got it cut, too...after about three months...) Eyes: Green Location: Davis, CA (near Sacramento) Occupation: First-year Law student at UC Davis (ack!) College: Yale Major: Finally settled on English, after bouncing around in Computer Science and Theatre Studies and such Job: Gainfully unemployed at the moment (they won't *let* me have a job!) Favorite food: Chocolate! Least favorite foods: cheese, tomatoes (I'm great fun in pizza parlours) Favorite music: Assorted weird stuff, but I'll listen to most anything. Current addictions: Chris de Burgh, Christine Lavin, most folk music, and classical Favorite authors: Arthur Conan Doyle, P.G. Wodehouse, Dorothy Sayers, and a whole bunch of FSF authors Hobbies: Too numerous to mention. Easier to list things I'm *not* interested in, of which there are very few. I spout Shakespeare and Monty Python with frightening accuracy, find as many different outputs for crea- tivity as I can (act, sing, write, play piano, etc.), and spend way too much time on this computer-thingy. -- Shadow -- From the only slightly twisted mind of... "In case we decide to ez000691@pollux.ucdavis.edu surrender to them, Number One." Path: mit-eddie!mintaka!think!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!bloom-beacon!shelby!csli!cphoenix From: cphoenix@csli.Stanford.EDU (Chris Phoenix) Newsgroups: alt.callahans Subject: Re: soulmates Message-ID: <11215@csli.Stanford.EDU> Date: 1 Dec 89 08:04:06 GMT References: <43561@bu-cs.BU.EDU> <2664@unisoft.UUCP> Sender: cphoenix@csli.Stanford.EDU (Chris Phoenix) Reply-To: cphoenix@csli.stanford.edu (Chris Phoenix) Organization: Center for the Study of Language and Information, Stanford U. Lines: 17 In article <2664@unisoft.UUCP> greywolf@unisoft.UUCP (The Grey Wolf) writes: >"To everyone else who is interested in finding a soulmate, don't look so >hard. You may be pleasantly surprised." So true! It's too early to know, but I think I've found a soulmate. Certainly a very special person, and now my SO... and I didn't even notice her (in my philosophy class) until she sent me e-mail. [no one noticed him get a drink, but there it is--would you believe $1 for a glass of ice water?] "To happy endings." -- Chris Phoenix | A harp is a nude piano. cphoenix@csli.Stanford.EDU | "More input! More input!" First we got the Bomb, and that was good, cause we love peace and motherhood. Disclaimer: I want a kinder, gentler net with a thousand pints of lite. Path: mit-eddie!wuarchive!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!shelby!csli!cphoenix From: cphoenix@csli.Stanford.EDU (Chris Phoenix) Newsgroups: alt.callahans Subject: Re: Poem Review, + Request for Personal Info About Posters Keywords: Good Poetry. Message-ID: <11216@csli.Stanford.EDU> Date: 1 Dec 89 08:26:50 GMT References: <3170@hub.UUCP> Sender: cphoenix@csli.Stanford.EDU (Chris Phoenix) Reply-To: cphoenix@csli.stanford.edu (Chris Phoenix) Organization: Center for the Study of Language and Information, Stanford U. Lines: 36 In article <3170@hub.UUCP> snoopy@fig.UUCP (Smith) writes: > [let's post descriptions of ourselves] Sounds like a good idea! >... I'm not trying to break this newsgroup up into teeny little >parts, but it would be nice to talk with friends about some of my hobbies... Remember, in this bar everyone hears everything you say... I like the idea of talking about common interests, but if they're too narrow please consider taking it up in email. Now that the boring stuff is out of the way :-) Name: Chris Phoenix. Hobbies: Talking with friends, reading, climbing trees or otherwise enjoying nature, hacking, reading news, building things, ... Age: 18. Sex: Male. Height: 6'2". Weight: 200 (but I want to reduce it...) Hair: Blond, shoulder length, being allowed to grow. Favorite food: Just about anything home-cooked, or anything with sugar. I especially like things like that fudge recipe someone posted... Favorite color: Red. Favorite TV shows: I usually don't watch TV. I guess Star Trek (the old is better--but no flame wars, please :), and a couple of sitcoms. Favorite movies: Cocktail, Adventures in Babysitting, just about anything funny. College: Stanford. Major: Symbolic Systems. (It would take too long to explain here.) Year: Senior, but hopefully staying here another year. Location: Stanford, California. (Big help, I know... it's near San Francisco.) Kind of humor I like: Just read my finger plan... Current goal in life: To find a really fun job, probably in AI. -- Chris Phoenix | A harp is a nude piano. cphoenix@csli.Stanford.EDU | "More input! More input!" First we got the Bomb, and that was good, cause we love peace and motherhood. Disclaimer: I want a kinder, gentler net with a thousand pints of lite. Path: mit-eddie!snorkelwacker!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!tank!uwvax!sabertooth.cs.wisc.edu!lewandow From: lewandow@sabertooth.cs.wisc.edu (Gary Lewandowski (TA of Doom)) Newsgroups: alt.callahans Subject: Personal info Message-ID: <9273@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Date: 1 Dec 89 20:46:14 GMT Sender: news@spool.cs.wisc.edu Reply-To: lewandow@sabertooth.cs.wisc.edu (Gary Lewandowski (TA of Doom)) Distribution: alt Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept Lines: 51 name: Gary Lewandowski (aka Dr. Doom, doomster, the TA of Doom -- I'm sure there's a story in this somewhere :-)) hobbies: graduate school :-), comic and other books, games, sports (if you can teach me it I'll try to play it), oh and I'm interested in things that I don't really call hobbies... (hotlines for various concerns - empathy in general) job: TA of Doom, maybe something else for summer... age: 22 sex: male height: 5'6" weight: around 140 (of course my parents just decided I was too thin, so maybe it's less... :-)) hair: dark brown/black (I'm horrible at describing myself, much less other people) and it's thick and curly/wavy (but it's short right now so it's still under control) eyes: green! (I wear glasses/contacts) favorite music: hmm. I'm fond of Genesis (early and late), Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel, Tracy Chapman, and (strangely enough) Madonna Oh, but don't forget Wynton Marsalis, and then there's Manheim Steamroller, and how can you dislike classical musica when there's the New World Symphony and The Planets... I guess I like lots of stuff. favorite movies: Star Wars, Untouchables college: University of Chicago grad school: University of Wisconsin-Madison major: math in college, now computer science with a leaning towards programming languages or theory. location: Madison, WI, USA But who am I really? Depends on the time. My students think I'm the most hyperactive TA they've ever encountered. My sense of humor leans to the absurd; I call home each Friday at 8pm and tell my younger brother a "dumb story" (hmm, that might be a postable event), to which he usually responds "Oh brother." (And I say, proudly, "That's me.") At other times, many times in the classes I'm taking, I'm quiet and intense. I like to listen to people, and people usually feel comfortable talking to me. When you meet me, I'll be quiet. Once you know me, I know you, and I'm comfortable with you, you'll wonder if I'm ever not hyperactive. Then you'll see me when I'm not, and hopefully you'll understand. Gee, that's what's happened to me reading this group! Most of all, I really do care. So talk to me. :-) gary lewandow@cs.wisc.edu "It's too late to correct it," said the Red Queen. "When you've once said a thing, that fixes it, and you must take the consequences." Path: mit-eddie!snorkelwacker!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!ucsd!ucsdhub!hp-sdd!hplabs!hplred!egly From: egly@hplred.HP.COM (Diana Egly) Newsgroups: alt.callahans Subject: Re: soulmates Message-ID: <20940004@hplred.HP.COM> Date: 30 Nov 89 17:33:55 GMT References: <43561@bu-cs.BU.EDU> Organization: Hewlett Packard Labs, Palo Alto CA Lines: 28 Friends, let me tell you a story. Back when I was in college, long enough ago, I was sitting in a classroom waiting for the class to begin. A person walked in and sat beside me and we started talking. It seems this person had decided upon walking into the room that I was someone well worth knowing. I'm a bit dense sometimes -- it took me almost 15 minutes before I came to the same conclusion. From that moment on we were almost inseparable. We fit together. Many people assumed that we were lovers. But we weren't. At the time I said that this was my first friendship, but now that I am older I realize that the intimacy we share is NOT friendship. For reasons that are unimportant, we do not now live close together, and yet our lives are continue to be connected. Sometimes, when we haven't talked for a while, I start to think that I have idealized the relationship -- and then we talk and I realize that the connection is even closer than I had remembered. For over ten years now we find that our lives follow similar patterns of joy and sorrow, of advancement and loss. A person who always seems to understand what I feel and whom I do not find puzzling or surprising. And the feelings are mutual -- we've talked about it. I would have called this person my soulmate -- for that is how it feels. But if you limited that term to romantic relationships... to male-female relationships... then this becomes a relationship which has no name. It can have no name. Friends, are you really certain that your soulmate will be your spouse? Are you really certain that the issue of soulmates is critical to romantic relationships? Because I'm not. I can not deny my own experience. Path: mit-eddie!mintaka!snorkelwacker!apple!usc!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!microsoft!t-phils From: t-phils@microsoft.UUCP (Count Zero minus one) Newsgroups: alt.callahans Subject: Re: Toast Message-ID: <9230@microsoft.UUCP> Date: 1 Dec 89 22:08:50 GMT References: <43527@bu-cs.BU.EDU> Reply-To: t-phils@microsoft.UUCP (Count Zero minus one) Distribution: alt Organization: Microsoft Corp., Redmond WA Lines: 55 | From: jane@fsdcupt.csd.mot.COM (Jane Beckman x2637) | | | Over by the fire, a ghostly figure lurks, and raises her glass to the | phantom of the night, understanding his world and his toast too well. | Her face seems relatively young, but she's weatherbeaten, and her eyes | are ancient beyond her years, and there is a bleakness that radiates, | despite the swashbuckling style she affects, with her black leather and | billowing sleeves and nonmatched earcuffs. She smiles a weary smile. ... | She | settles back and crosses her booted feet. Her eyes, haunted by many | ghosts, watch the fire, lost in its blazing. No one sees her... Almost no-one. Over in the opposite corner of the room sits a man in dark clothing, who has sat in this same corner often before, listening but saying little. Now, his form seems to blur, outlines and faces flickering and changing like shadows in the unsteady firelight. The face of the ancient mage who visited the Place several days past appears briefly, then disappears to be replaced by that of an almost beautiful youth with sad grey eyes, replaced just as quickly by the face of a proud samurai. After thirty seconds or so, the shadows around him coalesce into the form of a tall man wearing a black cloak and gray tabard over jet-black armor. The tabard bears an emblem in black and white of a stag's head. From his belt hand two scabbarded longswords; a third sword, a great two-handed weapon, is slung across his back. He stands silently and walks across the room, passing by the bar on his way. He places two gleaming silver coins upon the bar; as he withdraws his hand, they seem to shimmer briefly, revealing themselves as ordinary dollar bills. He asks for two brandies, accepting the plain glasses that Mike hands him, but on entering his grasp, the aura of illusion he wears falls over them, transforming them into elaborate goblets of chased silver. He continues over to the table at which Jilara sits, walking with uncanny silence; the loudest sound is the faint creak of his armor, flexing as he walks. Where he passes, the light in the room seems to dim for an instant. He avoids looking at the faces of those he passes by, but those who by chance meet the gaze of his dark eyes see there the reflection of age beyond his apparent years, the haunted look of a man who has endured things no man should have to endure. He sits in the closest convenient chair, and offers one of the two silver goblets to Jilara. "May I offer you some of this fine brandy? I tried to answer your message before, but evidently the address I had was incorrect..." -- Phil Stracchino Philosopher. Poet. Console cowboy. Technogeek. Human being. (And if you believe that, I have this bridge in Brooklyn for sale, cheap...) Path: mit-eddie!mit-amt!snorkelwacker!think!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!rex!uflorida!haven!umd5!spier From: spier@umd5.umd.edu (Lori Spier) Newsgroups: alt.callahans Subject: Re: Story/Toast Message-ID: <5712@umd5.umd.edu> Date: 1 Dec 89 22:04:00 GMT References: <89333.184753JDO103@PSUVM.BITNET> <9271@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Reply-To: spier@umd5.umd.edu (Lori Spier) Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Lines: 23 A figure suddenly appears at the line without anyone noticing. This is not really unusual - she usually listens more than talks anyway. (Oh, the devil take third person narratives!) But this time I wanted to echo this toast. I can feel everyone's pain as they relate their toasts but believe me, it does get better. Getting back to the original toast (my mind does tend to wander a bit) - recently, (about 6 weeks ago) my father died. I hadn't known him very well or very long since my parents divoriced when I was about 6. The illness was long, painful and messy, and finally was too strong for my dad. In the few months he had remaining, we did talk some but never really grew closer. Upon his death, I realized just how much I had loved this man, and that I had never told him so. So, Mike, here's a dollar and give me a shot of whatever's handy. To dads, to death, and to love. I'll be over here in the corner listening if no one minds. ****************************************************************** Lori Spier University of Maryland, College Park Spier@umd5.umd.edu lori@merlin-tr.umd.edu ****************************************************************** Path: mit-eddie!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!uunet!image.soe.clarkson.edu!news From: cooleyra@clutx.clarkson.edu (Pixel,,,) Newsgroups: alt.callahans Subject: Re: soulmates Message-ID: <1989Dec2.001713.5479@sun.soe.clarkson.edu> Date: 2 Dec 89 00:17:13 GMT References: <20940004@hplred.HP.COM> Sender: news@sun.soe.clarkson.edu Reply-To: cooleyra@clutx.clarkson.edu Organization: Clarkson University, Potsdam, NY Lines: 31 From article <20940004@hplred.HP.COM>, by egly@hplred.HP.COM (Diana Egly): > [story removed] > I would have called this person my soulmate -- for that is how it feels. > But if you limited that term to romantic relationships... to male-female > relationships... then this becomes a relationship which has no name. It > can have no name. > Friends, are you really certain that your soulmate will be your spouse? The soulmate doesn't *have* to...there's nothing wrong with one being 'just' friends...but...if you and your soulmate (assuming you have found him/her) *do* have a romantic relationship...then in my view, it's so much better. Kind of like the song 'friends and lovers' by whoever it's by. When you have that close a friendship with another person who you have romantic feelings towards, you tend (in my experience) to *want* to do things to make her/him happy *even more* than you might otherwise. The extra levels of knowing each other, to me, makes a significant difference. > Are you really certain that the issue of soulmates is critical to romantic > relationships? Because I'm not. It's (again, IMHO) not *critical*. It just makes the relationship a lot better/ nicer/more fun/whatever. > I can not deny my own experience. No-one is asking you to. At least, I am not. However, my experience leads me to a different viewpoint than you seem to have. Nothing wrong with that. I can't deny my own experiences either--nor would I! -- Pixel cooleyra@clutx. clarkson.edu | bitnet sig files--Who needs 'em? ...especially when the little buggers can only be four lines long... Get your own bloody opinions, these are taken! :) Path: mit-eddie!wuarchive!usc!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!rpi!image.soe.clarkson.edu!news From: cooleyra@clutx.clarkson.edu (Pixel,,,) Newsgroups: alt.callahans Subject: Error correction+ question (Re: soulmates) Message-ID: <1989Dec2.002834.5782@sun.soe.clarkson.edu> Date: 2 Dec 89 00:28:34 GMT References: <1989Dec2.001713.5479@sun.soe.clarkson.edu> Sender: news@sun.soe.clarkson.edu Reply-To: cooleyra@clutx.clarkson.edu Organization: Clarkson University, Potsdam, NY Lines: 44 Hello callahans people. I was reading over someone's shoulder yesterday and saw this group. I wanted to throw an alternate view into this thread. (BTW if this came up twice, I'm sorry...I don't remember if I set the dist- ribution to net or not, so I just printed it out again....) From article <20940004@hplred.HP.COM>, by egly@hplred.HP.COM (Diana Egly): > [story removed] > I would have called this person my soulmate -- for that is how it feels. > But if you limited that term to romantic relationships... to male-female > relationships... then this becomes a relationship which has no name. It > can have no name. > Friends, are you really certain that your soulmate will be your spouse? The soulmate doesn't *have* to...there's nothing wrong with one being 'just' friends...but...if you and your soulmate (assuming you have found him/her) *do* have a romantic relationship...then in my view, it's so much better. Kind of like the song 'friends and lovers' by whoever it's by. When you have that close a friendship with another person who you have romantic feelings towards, you tend (in my experience) to *want* to do things to make her/him happy *even more* than you might otherwise. The extra levels of knowing each other, to me, makes a significant difference. Are you really certain that the issue of soulmates is critical to romantic relationships? Because I'm not. It's (again, IMHO) not *critical*. It just makes the relationship a lot better/ nicer/more fun/whatever. > I can not deny my own experience. No-one is asking you to. At least, I am not. However, my experience leads me to a different viewpoint than you seem to have. Nothing wrong with that. I can't deny my own experiences either--nor would I! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now I'd like to throw in a question/and/or request for help. I seem to have lost several dozen posts to this group..is there anywhere I can get an archive? maybe an ftp address or something? any help would be appreciated...also, if anyone would like to take the trouble of emailing me an explanation of this group, it would be appreciated. If I can figure out what's going on here, you may see more of me...you can decide whether or not that's bad....:) -- Pixel cooleyra@clutx. clarkson.edu | bitnet sig files--Who needs 'em? ...especially when the little buggers can only be four lines long... Get your own bloody opinions, these are taken! :)